Comments for Blog @ UR Part Of It http://www.urpartofit.net/blog I am part of It, You are part of It, We are part of It, that's It Sat, 23 May 2009 16:59:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 Comment on Barack Obama and Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery” by bobguyer http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/obama-and-shirley-jacksons-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-174 bobguyer Sat, 23 May 2009 16:59:20 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=73#comment-174 Thanks for the comment Madison. I enjoyed the material that your link lead to. In addition to tradition I think the Lottery is a good example of what Phillip Zimbardo calls the Lucifer Effect. Dr. Zimbardo was the social psychologist who lead the infamous Stanford prison experiment where students divided randomly into a guard and prisoner population played out the roles they were given in a mock prison. After a short while the guards started to abuse the prisoners in various ways. The results were shocking to Dr. Zimbardo and many others. Our assumption that moral/ethical behavior is mediated by the individual alone turned out to be wrong, social structure exerts a large influence over the ethical/moral behavior of individuals. The lottery is just as shocking; how can these people who seem normal in most respects do this horrible thing and then just go back to being "normal" folks. This is a good reason why we have to support people who are getting dumped on by the group we are in, to help break up this unfortunate tendency in human group psychology and behavior. Thanks for the comment Madison. I enjoyed the material that your link lead to. In addition to tradition I think the Lottery is a good example of what Phillip Zimbardo calls the Lucifer Effect. Dr. Zimbardo was the social psychologist who lead the infamous Stanford prison experiment where students divided randomly into a guard and prisoner population played out the roles they were given in a mock prison. After a short while the guards started to abuse the prisoners in various ways. The results were shocking to Dr. Zimbardo and many others. Our assumption that moral/ethical behavior is mediated by the individual alone turned out to be wrong, social structure exerts a large influence over the ethical/moral behavior of individuals. The lottery is just as shocking; how can these people who seem normal in most respects do this horrible thing and then just go back to being “normal” folks. This is a good reason why we have to support people who are getting dumped on by the group we are in, to help break up this unfortunate tendency in human group psychology and behavior.

]]> Comment on Barack Obama and Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery” by Madison Brown http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/obama-and-shirley-jacksons-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Madison Brown Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:34:32 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=73#comment-173 The Lottery is truly a horrific exploration of society and traditions. It makes us question our beliefs and ourselves closely. What Jackson is saying is that tradition often doesn't appear to have a history or logic of its own; it just is, and this type of thinking makes tradition hard to question. So we can read the novel as a sort of a plea The Lottery is truly a horrific exploration of society and traditions. It makes us question our beliefs and ourselves closely. What Jackson is saying is that tradition often doesn’t appear to have a history or logic of its own; it just is, and this type of thinking makes tradition hard to question. So we can read the novel as a sort of a plea

]]> Comment on Suburban Tree Dialog 2 (Trees Culturally Speaking) by Bg http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/tree-talk-2/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Bg Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:27:39 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=150#comment-172 Ms: Hi tree I love you and have missed seeing you live lately Tree: hi bob how are you doing Me: I'm ok but I learned that one of my favorite environmental activist bloggers is real sick. He is a real passionate fighter for human beigns to realize the harm we are causi g to the living world. He has kids I think a wife and he wants to know we are dealing with this before he passes. He is a smart, kind, a d brave man, his blogging name t Is Johnny Rook. Tree: are there others like him or is he the only one Me: he's the only one of him but there are others all over the world that see our situation simarly and are trying to do something Tree: I asked you earlier what you are doing about it and I didn't really understand your answer Me: I don't have a clear answer Tree: why not? Me: I will think about that and get back to you. I'm getting cold and I wanted to spend a little time quietly with you like we did the last time I came out Tree: ok Ms: Hi tree I love you and have missed seeing you live lately
Tree: hi bob how are you doing
Me: I’m ok but I learned that one of my favorite environmental activist bloggers is real sick. He is a real passionate fighter for human beigns to realize the harm we are causi g to the living world. He has kids I think a wife and he wants to know we are dealing with this before he passes. He is a smart, kind, a d brave man, his blogging name t
Is Johnny Rook.
Tree: are there others like him or is he the only one
Me: he’s the only one of him but there are others all over the world that see our situation simarly and are trying to do something
Tree: I asked you earlier what you are doing about it and I didn’t really understand your answer
Me: I don’t have a clear answer
Tree: why not?
Me: I will think about that and get back to you. I’m getting cold and I wanted to spend a little time quietly with you like we did the last time I came out
Tree: ok

]]> Comment on Of Plants and People by Bg http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/of-plants-and-people/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Bg Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:43:33 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=71#comment-171 How easy it it posting a comMent from my iPhone? How easy it it posting a comMent from my iPhone?

]]> Comment on Whole by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/whole/comment-page-1/#comment-170 bob Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:19:23 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=77#comment-170 Tomorrow is just as important as today As today is equally important as tomorrow The past influences today and tomorrow The past and present come together today Past deep and full, present imagines tomorrow deep, full, possible, the whole Tomorrow is just as important as today
As today is equally important as tomorrow
The past influences today and tomorrow
The past and present come together today
Past deep and full, present imagines tomorrow
deep, full, possible, the whole

]]> Comment on Barack Obama and Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery” by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/obama-and-shirley-jacksons-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-120 bob Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:38:02 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=73#comment-120 Separation of elites from the consequences of their actions is cited by J Diamond as a primary reason for historic collapses. The political and economic process we are involved now is a process of separation from nature and from each other, particularly of elites from all natural consequences. Political reform that connects, does not allow elites to pull away is central to reforming our hyper powered disaster in the making. Transparency of government and corporate activity along with public rating mechanisms would be helpful. Requiring legislators and executives to read all laws they vote on and cite all references would be another. Separation of elites from the consequences of their actions is cited by J Diamond as a primary reason for historic collapses. The political and economic process we are involved now is a process of separation from nature and from each other, particularly of elites from all natural consequences.

Political reform that connects, does not allow elites to pull away is central to reforming our hyper powered disaster in the making. Transparency of government and corporate activity along with public rating mechanisms would be helpful. Requiring legislators and executives to read all laws they vote on and cite all references would be another.

]]> Comment on Livability, not sustainability, should be our goal by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/livability-not-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-118 bob Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:26:19 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=69#comment-118 noun 1. state of disgrace or loss of self-respect 2. strong feelings of embarrassment [syn: chagrin] 3. an instance in which you are caused to lose your prestige or self-respect; "he had to undergo one humiliation after another" 4. depriving one of self-esteem noun
1. state of disgrace or loss of self-respect
2. strong feelings of embarrassment [syn: chagrin]
3. an instance in which you are caused to lose your prestige or self-respect; “he had to undergo one humiliation after another”
4. depriving one of self-esteem

]]> Comment on Livability, not sustainability, should be our goal by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/livability-not-sustainability/comment-page-1/#comment-117 bob Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:22:26 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=69#comment-117 humiliation is something I am afraid of. Why? humiliation is something I am afraid of. Why?

]]> Comment on Of Plants and People by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/of-plants-and-people/comment-page-1/#comment-62 bob Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:18:45 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=71#comment-62 The time economy is another thing I need to write about The time economy is another thing I need to write about

]]> Comment on Of Plants and People by bob http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/of-plants-and-people/comment-page-1/#comment-61 bob Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:14:15 +0000 http://www.urpartofit.net/blog/?p=71#comment-61 I need to write about the privacy/secrecy issues of power and tie that to the research of Phillip Zimbardo. One of the factors he includes in enabling abuse is anonymity, ideology, and disguising roles are two others and all are operative in corporate capitalism and corporate democracy. Maybe we could undermine these factors and accomplish part of system reform that way. I need to write about the privacy/secrecy issues of power and tie that to the research of Phillip Zimbardo. One of the factors he includes in enabling abuse is anonymity, ideology, and disguising roles are two others and all are operative in corporate capitalism and corporate democracy. Maybe we could undermine these factors and accomplish part of system reform that way.

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